Episodes

Thursday Jun 24, 2021
Thursday Jun 24, 2021
Bruce talks with Dr. Kendra Stewart from the College of Charleston. Dr. Stewart discusses her experience of finding public administration and succeeding in graduate school and on the tenure track. She also discusses the role that communication plays in effective public administration, the importance of the politics-administration dichotomy, and the future of public administration.
References from the Episode:
- Mordecai Lee, Grant Neeley, and Kendra Stewart (2021). The Practice of Government Public Relations.
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Friday Apr 10, 2020
Will Hatcher and Bruce McDonald on "The Public Affairs Faculty Manual"
Friday Apr 10, 2020
Friday Apr 10, 2020
On this episode,join our special guest host Staci Zavattaro from the University of Central Florida as she interviews Will and Bruce about their new book, The Public Affairs Faculty Manual.
References from the Episode:
- William Hatcher, Wesley L. Meares, and Victoria Gordeon. (2017). The Capacity and Constraints of Small MPA Programs: A Survey of Program Directors.
- Bruce D. McDonald and William Hatcher. (2020). The Public Affairs Faculty Manual: A Guide to the Effective Management of Public Affairs Programs.
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Bruce McDonald: @academicpiracy
William Hatcher: @ProfHat
Josie Schafer: @SchaferJosie
Staci Zavattaro: @StaciwithaZ

Thursday Mar 26, 2020
Thursday Mar 26, 2020
On this episode, join Bruce for an interview with Drs. Pamela Herd and Donald Moynihan from Georgetown University. Drs. Herd and Moynihan talk about their experience working together and finding collaborations for research. They also discuss the the importance of a research agenda that is both exploitative and exploratory in nature, as well as the challenge of the publishing timeline and the difficulty of work-life balance.
References from the Episode:
- Julian Christensen, Lene Aaroe, Martin Baekgaard, Pamela Herd, Donald P. Moynihan. (2019). Human Capital and Administrative Burden: The Role of Cognitive Resources in Citizen-State Interactions.
- Mark S. Granovetter. (1977). The Strength of Weak Ties.
- Pamela Herd, et al. (2019). Genes, Gender Inequality, and Educational Attainment.
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Bruce McDonald: @academicpiracy
William Hatcher: @ProfHat
Josie Schafer: @SchaferJosie

Thursday Dec 05, 2019
Irene Rubin on Being a Woman in Academia, Managing a Research Agenda, and Finding PA
Thursday Dec 05, 2019
Thursday Dec 05, 2019
On this episode, join Josie for an interview with Dr. Irene Rubin from Northern Illinois University. Dr. Rubin talks about her experience as a woman in academia and the pressure to exceed others that was placed upon her, as well as her approach to working on a research agenda and finding meaningful questions and research. She also discusses her journey to finding public administration as a discipline and her experience as the only female editor for Public Administration Review.
References from the Episode:
- Herbert J. Rubin and Irene S. Rubin. (2011). Qualitative Interviewing: The Art of Hearing Data.
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Bruce McDonald: @academicpiracy
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Josie Schafer: @SchaferJosie

Thursday Oct 31, 2019
Hannah Lebovits and Donta Council on The PhD Experience
Thursday Oct 31, 2019
Thursday Oct 31, 2019
On this episode, join Josie and Will for a conversation with Hannah Lebovits from Cleveland State University and Donta Council from Old Dominion University and American University. Hannah and Donta will talk about their experience as Ph.D. students in public administration, their efforts to engage the field, and the needs that Ph.D. students in today's society face.
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Bruce McDonald: @academicpiracy
William Hatcher: @ProfHat
Josie Schafer: @SchaferJosie

Thursday Jun 27, 2019
Ethel Williams on Supporting Your Students, Work-Life Balance, and the Cha-Cha
Thursday Jun 27, 2019
Thursday Jun 27, 2019
On this episode, join Bruce and Josie for an interview with Dr. Ethel Williams from the University of Nebraska Omaha. Dr. Williams talks about the importance of providing support to PhD students, her experience as university administrator, and failing to maintain a work-life balance but still doing something for yourself. She also talks about the status of research on social equity and diversity and how both the field and the academy is living up to the need to be inclusive.
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Bruce McDonald: @academicpiracy
William Hatcher: @ProfHat
Josie Schafer: @SchaferJosie

Wednesday Apr 03, 2019
Rosemary O'Leary on the Creative Urge, Appreciation, and Doing Your Own Thing
Wednesday Apr 03, 2019
Wednesday Apr 03, 2019
On this episode, join Bruce and Josie for an interview with Dr. Rosemary O'Leary from the University of Kansas. Dr. O'Leary talks about her experience as a public manager and how she decided to pursue a career in public administration. She also talks about the need to appreciate other areas and methodologies of research and the importance of asking questions before committing to a project.
References from the Show:
- Rosemary O'Leary. (2019). The Ethics of Dissent: Managing Guerilla Government
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Josie Schafer: @SchaferJosie

Thursday Mar 07, 2019
James Perry on Twins, Taking Risks, and Work-Life Balance
Thursday Mar 07, 2019
Thursday Mar 07, 2019
On this episode, join Bruce and Josie for an interview with Dr. James Perry from Indiana University. Dr. Perry talks about the public service motivation instilled in him by his parents and how his twin brother provided a connection to the practice of public administration that informed his research. He also talks about the difficulty of maintaining work-life balance and the importance of taking risks in careers and research.
References from the Show:
- John Perry, (2010). Blueprint for Building Community: Leadership Insights for Good Government.
- James L. Perry and Lois Recascino Wise (1990). The Motivational Bases of Public Service.
- James L. Perry, Trent A. Engbers, and So Yun Jun. (2009). Back to the Future? Performance-Related Pay, Empirical Research, and the Perils of Persistence.
- James L. Perry. (2019). The Journal of Public Affairs Education at 25: An Agenda for the Future.
Subscribe to Academics of PA today! New episodes drop every other Thursday.
Follow the podcast on Twitter: @AcademicsofPA
Follow the hosts on Twitter:
Bruce McDonald: @academicpiracy
William Hatcher: @ProfHat
Josie Schafer: @SchaferJosie