Episodes

Monday Jun 06, 2022
Monday Jun 06, 2022
Bruce talks with Drs. Mary Guy from the University of Colorado Denver and Brian Williams from the University of Virginia. Drs. Guy and Williams currently serve as the editors-in-chief of the Journal of Social Equity and Public Administration (JSEPA). In this episode, they will talk about the establishment of the journal, its position within the field of public administration research, and how everyone can get involved in social equity research.
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Thursday Oct 15, 2020
Thursday Oct 15, 2020
On this episode, Bruce talks with Drs. Daniel Smith from the University of Delaware and Domonic Bearfield from Rutgers University. Drs. Bearfield and and Smith discuss their experience in the field of public administration and the academy. They also discuss issues of diversity within the field and how we can be more proactive at recruiting and welcoming diverse individuals into the academy.
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Thursday Feb 06, 2020
Norma Riccucci on Social Equity, Finding PA, and Being Open to Methods
Thursday Feb 06, 2020
Thursday Feb 06, 2020
On this episode, join Bruce for an interview with Dr. Norma Riccucci from Rutgers University. Dr. Riccucci talks about her experience finding public administration as an undergraduate and the need to pursue social equity within the academy. She also discusses the importance of understanding where practitioners are coming from, the significant role that effective public administrators play in good governance, and the importance of methodological pluralism to a field like public administration.
References from the Episode:
- Norma M. Riccucci. (1995). Unsung Heroes: Federal Execucrats Making a Difference.
- Norma M. Riccucci. (2010). Public Administration: Traditions of Inquiry and Philosophies of Knowledge.
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Thursday Dec 05, 2019
Irene Rubin on Being a Woman in Academia, Managing a Research Agenda, and Finding PA
Thursday Dec 05, 2019
Thursday Dec 05, 2019
On this episode, join Josie for an interview with Dr. Irene Rubin from Northern Illinois University. Dr. Rubin talks about her experience as a woman in academia and the pressure to exceed others that was placed upon her, as well as her approach to working on a research agenda and finding meaningful questions and research. She also discusses her journey to finding public administration as a discipline and her experience as the only female editor for Public Administration Review.
References from the Episode:
- Herbert J. Rubin and Irene S. Rubin. (2011). Qualitative Interviewing: The Art of Hearing Data.
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Thursday Oct 31, 2019
Hannah Lebovits and Donta Council on The PhD Experience
Thursday Oct 31, 2019
Thursday Oct 31, 2019
On this episode, join Josie and Will for a conversation with Hannah Lebovits from Cleveland State University and Donta Council from Old Dominion University and American University. Hannah and Donta will talk about their experience as Ph.D. students in public administration, their efforts to engage the field, and the needs that Ph.D. students in today's society face.
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Thursday Oct 17, 2019
Jamie Levine Daniel on Talking About Antisemitism
Thursday Oct 17, 2019
Thursday Oct 17, 2019
On this episode, join Bruce and Josie for a live interview from the Midwest Public Affairs Conference with Dr. Jamie Levin Daniel from Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis. Dr. Daniel talks about the importance of incorporating discussions about religion, faith, and tolerance into the MPA classroom and the road map that she and Drs. Fyall and Benenson provide in their example of discussing antisemitism that was recently published in the Journal of Public Affairs Education.
References from the Show:
- Jamie Levine Daniel, Rachel Fyall, & Jodi Benenson. (2019). Talking About Antisemitism in MPA Classrooms and beyond.
- Jamie Levine Daniel. (2018). Consistently Inconsistent.
- Hannah Lebovits. (2019). Academic Parenting Blog Series.
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Bruce McDonald: @academicpiracy
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Josie Schafer: @SchaferJosie

Thursday Jun 27, 2019
Ethel Williams on Supporting Your Students, Work-Life Balance, and the Cha-Cha
Thursday Jun 27, 2019
Thursday Jun 27, 2019
On this episode, join Bruce and Josie for an interview with Dr. Ethel Williams from the University of Nebraska Omaha. Dr. Williams talks about the importance of providing support to PhD students, her experience as university administrator, and failing to maintain a work-life balance but still doing something for yourself. She also talks about the status of research on social equity and diversity and how both the field and the academy is living up to the need to be inclusive.
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Bruce McDonald: @academicpiracy
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Josie Schafer: @SchaferJosie